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	* '''Author''': ~~Anderson~~, Theodore M.		* '''Author''': Andersson, Theodore M.
	* '''Title''': Skalds and Troubadours		* '''Title''': Skalds and Troubadours
	* '''Published in''': ''Mediaeval Scandinavia'' 2		* '''Published in''': ''Mediaeval Scandinavia'' 2
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	* '''Pages''': 7-41		* '''Pages''': 7-41
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	* '''Reference''': ~~Anderson~~, Theodore M. "Skalds and Troubadours." ''Mediaeval Scandinavia'' 2 (1969): 7-41.		* '''Reference''': Andersson, Theodore M. "Skalds and Troubadours." ''Mediaeval Scandinavia'' 2 (1969): 7-41.
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	==Annotation==		==Annotation==
	~~Anderson~~ questions Bjarni Einarsson’s thesis regarding the possible influences the troubadour tradition in Provence, France, and french epic might have had on Old Norse skaldic poetry. Instead of the French origin, ~~Anderson~~ notes that Old Norse love poems seem to share similar phrasing with Ovid’s writing, which would point towards a classical more than a Provençal model. He draws the conclusion that Old Norse skaldic poetry could have been influenced by those genres, but that the origins of both skaldic love poetry and skald biographies are indigenous, in spite of Rögnvaldr kali visiting Provence and the similarities certain poems share. More precisely, he claims that the roots of early skald biographies lie in the Kings sagas, and that Egils saga is one of those.		Andersson questions Bjarni Einarsson’s thesis regarding the possible influences the troubadour tradition in Provence, France, and french epic might have had on Old Norse skaldic poetry. Instead of the French origin, Andersson notes that Old Norse love poems seem to share similar phrasing with Ovid’s writing, which would point towards a classical more than a Provençal model. He draws the conclusion that Old Norse skaldic poetry could have been influenced by those genres, but that the origins of both skaldic love poetry and skald biographies are indigenous, in spite of Rögnvaldr kali visiting Provence and the similarities certain poems share. More precisely, he claims that the roots of early skald biographies lie in the Kings sagas, and that Egils saga is one of those.

	==Lýsing==		==Lýsing==
	~~Anderson~~ gagnrýnir tilgátu Bjarna Einarssonar um hugsanleg áhrif frönsku trúbadorhefðarinnar frá Provence og franskri epík á norræna dróttkvæðahefð. Í stað þess að samþykkja tilgátu Bjarna um franskan uppruna, bendir ~~Anderson~~ á skyldleika í orðasamböndum milli ástakvæða Óvíðs og dróttkvæða sem gera ástina að umfjöllunarefni. Sá skyldleiki gæti frekar bent til klassískra frekar en franskra áhrifa á dróttkvæðin. Hann kemst að þeirri niðurstöðu að þó svo að dróttkvæði gætu hafi orðið fyrir áhrifum frá annarri hvorri eða báðum þessara bókmenntagreina sé uppruni ástar-dróttkvæða og ævisagna skálda innlendur. Þrátt fyrir heimsókn Rögnvaldar kala til Provence og ákveðinna líkinda einstakra kvæða sé ekki um slík áhrif að ræða, heldur séu rætur elstu skáldsagnanna í Konungasögunum, þar á meðal Egils sögu.		Andersson gagnrýnir tilgátu Bjarna Einarssonar um hugsanleg áhrif frönsku trúbadorhefðarinnar frá Provence og franskri epík á norræna dróttkvæðahefð. Í stað þess að samþykkja tilgátu Bjarna um franskan uppruna, bendir Andersson á skyldleika í orðasamböndum milli ástakvæða Óvíðs og dróttkvæða sem gera ástina að umfjöllunarefni. Sá skyldleiki gæti frekar bent til klassískra frekar en franskra áhrifa á dróttkvæðin. Hann kemst að þeirri niðurstöðu að þó svo að dróttkvæði gætu hafi orðið fyrir áhrifum frá annarri hvorri eða báðum þessara bókmenntagreina sé uppruni ástar-dróttkvæða og ævisagna skálda innlendur. Þrátt fyrir heimsókn Rögnvaldar kala til Provence og ákveðinna líkinda einstakra kvæða sé ekki um slík áhrif að ræða, heldur séu rætur elstu skáldsagnanna í Konungasögunum, þar á meðal Egils sögu.

	==See also==		==See also==

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	==Annotation==		==Annotation==
	Anderson ~~researches~~ possible influences the troubadour tradition in Provence, France, and french epic might have had on Old Norse skaldic poetry. He draws the conclusion that Old Norse skaldic poetry ~~was not~~ influenced by those genres, in spite of Rögnvaldr kali visiting Provence and the similarities certain poems share. He claims the roots of early skald biographies lie in the Kings sagas, and that Egils saga is one of those.		Anderson questions Bjarni Einarsson’s thesis regarding the possible influences the troubadour tradition in Provence, France, and french epic might have had on Old Norse skaldic poetry. Instead of the French origin, Anderson notes that Old Norse love poems seem to share similar phrasing with Ovid’s writing, which would point towards a classical more than a Provençal model. He draws the conclusion that Old Norse skaldic poetry could have been influenced by those genres, but that the origins of both skaldic love poetry and skald biographies are indigenous, in spite of Rögnvaldr kali visiting Provence and the similarities certain poems share. More precisely, he claims that the roots of early skald biographies lie in the Kings sagas, and that Egils saga is one of those.

	==Lýsing==		==Lýsing==
	Anderson ~~rannsakar~~ hugsanleg áhrif ~~frá trúbadorhefð~~ frá Provence~~, Frakklandi~~ og franskri epík á norræna dróttkvæðahefð. Hann kemst að þeirri niðurstöðu að ~~þrátt~~ fyrir heimsókn Rögnvaldar kala til Provence og ~~ákveðin líkindi~~ einstakra kvæða sé ekki um slík áhrif að ræða, heldur séu rætur elstu skáldsagnanna í Konungasögunum, þar á meðal Egils sögu.		Anderson gagnrýnir tilgátu Bjarna Einarssonar um hugsanleg áhrif frönsku trúbadorhefðarinnar frá Provence og franskri epík á norræna dróttkvæðahefð. Í stað þess að samþykkja tilgátu Bjarna um franskan uppruna, bendir Anderson á skyldleika í orðasamböndum milli ástakvæða Óvíðs og dróttkvæða sem gera ástina að umfjöllunarefni. Sá skyldleiki gæti frekar bent til klassískra frekar en franskra áhrifa á dróttkvæðin. Hann kemst að þeirri niðurstöðu að þó svo að dróttkvæði gætu hafi orðið fyrir áhrifum frá annarri hvorri eða báðum þessara bókmenntagreina sé uppruni ástar-dróttkvæða og ævisagna skálda innlendur. Þrátt fyrir heimsókn Rögnvaldar kala til Provence og ákveðinna líkinda einstakra kvæða sé ekki um slík áhrif að ræða, heldur séu rætur elstu skáldsagnanna í Konungasögunum, þar á meðal Egils sögu.

	==See also==		==See also==

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	==References==		==References==
	[[Egla,_56\|Chapter 56]]: '''hefir þú fólgið nafn hennar í vísu þessi''': "When Egill secretes his lady's name in a stanza, it is not a ''senhal'', and when Þormóðr rededicates a love poem, it is not a ''chanson de change''. Indeed, one could argue that the similarities between Norse and Provençal love poetry are no greater than the similarities between the Norse ''níðvísa'' and the Provençal ''sirventès'' or the Norse ''erfidrápa'' and the Provençal ''planh''. The chief difficulty involved in Bjarni Einarsson's equation is therefore the absence of really significant correspondences between the conventions of love poetry in medieval Iceland and Provence." (p. 17).		[[Egla,_56\|Chapter 56]]: '''hefir þú fólgið nafn hennar í vísu þessi''': "When Egill secretes his lady's name in a stanza, it is not a ''senhal'', and when Þormóðr rededicates a love poem, it is not a ''chanson de change''. Indeed, one could argue that the similarities between Norse and Provençal love poetry are no greater than the similarities between the Norse ''níðvísa'' and the Provençal ''sirventès'' or the Norse ''erfidrápa'' and the Provençal ''planh''. The chief difficulty involved in Bjarni Einarsson's equation is therefore the absence of really significant correspondences between the conventions of love poetry in medieval Iceland and Provence." (p. 17).

			[[Egla,_56\|Chapter 56]]: '''sorg eyvita borgar''': "Another consistent feature of Norse love poetry is the tendency to work from the immediate situation to an emotional expression. The poet will often fix the circumstances in the first ''helming'' and then express his love or dismay or longing in the second ''helming''." (p. 22).

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	* '''Author''': Anderson, Theodore M.		* '''Author''': Anderson, Theodore M.
	* '''Title''': Skalds and ~~Troubadors~~		* '''Title''': Skalds and Troubadours
	* '''Published in''': ''Mediaeval Scandinavia'' 2		* '''Published in''': ''Mediaeval Scandinavia'' 2
	* '''Year''': 1969		* '''Year''': 1969
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	==References==		==References==
			[[Egla,_56\|Chapter 56]]: '''hefir þú fólgið nafn hennar í vísu þessi''': "When Egill secretes his lady's name in a stanza, it is not a ''senhal'', and when Þormóðr rededicates a love poem, it is not a ''chanson de change''. Indeed, one could argue that the similarities between Norse and Provençal love poetry are no greater than the similarities between the Norse ''níðvísa'' and the Provençal ''sirventès'' or the Norse ''erfidrápa'' and the Provençal ''planh''. The chief difficulty involved in Bjarni Einarsson's equation is therefore the absence of really significant correspondences between the conventions of love poetry in medieval Iceland and Provence." (p. 17).

	==Links==		==Links==

Barbora at 14:02, 23 May 2016

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	* '''Author''': Anderson, Theodore M.		* '''Author''': Anderson, Theodore M.
	* '''Title''': Skalds and Troubadors		* '''Title''': Skalds and Troubadors
	* '''Published in''': ~~Viator, Medieval and Renaissance Studies, vol. 24.~~		* '''Published in''': ''Mediaeval Scandinavia'' 2
	* '''Year''': ~~1993~~		* '''Year''': 1969
	* '''Pages''': 7-41		* '''Pages''': 7-41
	* '''E-text''':		* '''E-text''':
	* '''Reference''': Anderson, Theodore M. "Skalds and ~~Troubadors~~." ''~~Viator, Medieval and Renaissance Studies, vol. 24.~~'' ~~1993. pp.~~ 7-41.		* '''Reference''': Anderson, Theodore M. "Skalds and Troubadours." ''Mediaeval Scandinavia'' 2 (1969): 7-41.
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	* '''Key words''':		* '''Key words''':

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	==Annotation==		==Annotation==
	Anderson researches possible influences ~~southern~~ and ~~northern France~~ might have had on Old Norse skaldic poetry. He draws the conclusion that Old Norse skaldic poetry was not influenced by ~~France~~.		Anderson researches possible influences the troubadour tradition in Provence, France, and french epic might have had on Old Norse skaldic poetry. He draws the conclusion that Old Norse skaldic poetry was not influenced by those genres, in spite of Rögnvaldr kali visiting Provence and the similarities certain poems share. He claims the roots of early skald biographies lie in the Kings sagas, and that Egils saga is one of those.

	==Lýsing==		==Lýsing==
	Anderson rannsakar hugsanleg áhrif frá ~~suður-~~ og ~~norðurhluta Frakklands~~ á norræna dróttkvæðahefð. Hann kemst að þeirri niðurstöðu að um slík áhrif ~~sé ekki~~ að ræða.		Anderson rannsakar hugsanleg áhrif frá trúbadorhefð frá Provence, Frakklandi og franskri epík á norræna dróttkvæðahefð. Hann kemst að þeirri niðurstöðu að þrátt fyrir heimsókn Rögnvaldar kala til Provence og ákveðin líkindi einstakra kvæða sé ekki um slík áhrif að ræða, heldur séu rætur elstu skáldsagnanna í Konungasögunum, þar á meðal Egils sögu.

	==See also==		==See also==

Hildur Ýr Ísberg at 12:03, 25 July 2012

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	==Annotation==		==Annotation==
			Anderson researches possible influences southern and northern France might have had on Old Norse skaldic poetry. He draws the conclusion that Old Norse skaldic poetry was not influenced by France.

	==Lýsing==		==Lýsing==
			Anderson rannsakar hugsanleg áhrif frá suður- og norðurhluta Frakklands á norræna dróttkvæðahefð. Hann kemst að þeirri niðurstöðu að um slík áhrif sé ekki að ræða.

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	* ''Written by:''		* ''Written by: Hildur Ýr Ísberg''
	* ''Icelandic/English translation:''		* ''Icelandic/English translation: Hildur Ýr Ísberg''

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	* '''Author''':		* '''Author''': Anderson, Theodore M.
	* '''Title''':		* '''Title''': Skalds and Troubadors
	* '''Published in''':		* '''Published in''': Viator, Medieval and Renaissance Studies, vol. 24.
	* '''Place, ~~Publisher''':~~		* '''Year''': 1993
	* '''Year''':		* '''Pages''': 7-41
	* '''Pages''':
	* '''E-text''':		* '''E-text''':
	* '''Reference''': ''~~MLA~~''		* '''Reference''': Anderson, Theodore M. "Skalds and Troubadors." ''Viator, Medieval and Renaissance Studies, vol. 24.'' 1993. pp. 7-41.
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	* '''Key words''':		* '''Key words''':

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	==See also==		==See also==
			[[Bjarni Einarsson. The Lovesick Skald]]

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