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	He said he wished to take an oath of them, and pledges that they would hold to them, and they all said "yea" to that, and so he took pledges from them.		He said he wished to take an oath of them, and pledges that they would hold to them, and they all said "yea" to that, and so he took pledges from them.

	"This is the beginning of our laws,"<ref>'''This is the beginning of our laws,''': "If you want a quick conclusion, it can somewhat unfairly be boiled down to this: things went from bad, but bearable, before Christianity, to worse and barely bearable after. Some people change their style of dying, but most importantly, it becomes harder to maintain the peace. The rules governing violence seem more under stress afterwards. In both post and pre-Christian Njáls saga revenge thrives, but in the earlier period it adhered better to norms of proportionality than after the Conversion." [[Miller, William Ian. Why is Your Axe Bloody?]] (p. 189).</ref> he said, "that all men shall be Christian here in the land, and believe in one God, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, but leave off all idol- worship, not expose children to perish, and not eat horseflesh. It shall be outlawry if such things are proved openly against any man; but if these things are done by stealth, then it shall be blameless."		"This is the beginning of our laws,"<ref>'''This is the beginning of our laws,''': "If you want a quick conclusion, it can somewhat unfairly be boiled down to this: things went from bad, but bearable, before Christianity, to worse and barely bearable after. Some people change their style of dying, but most importantly, it becomes harder to maintain the peace. The rules governing violence seem more under stress afterwards. In both post and pre-Christian Njáls saga revenge thrives, but in the earlier period it adhered better to norms of proportionality than after the Conversion." [[Miller, William Ian. Why is Your Axe Bloody?]] (p. 189).</ref> he said, "that all men shall be Christian here in the land, and believe in one God, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost,<ref>'''believe in one God, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost''': "It is undoubtedly no coincidence that Ari and supposedly Þorgeirr talk only about baptism, the formal requirement of Christianity, without mentioning the accompanying faith in a single god. This would have entailed using the difficult concept goð (God), a neuter word in the pagan context, where it was most often used in the plural, but a masculine term for Christians, of necessity used only in the singular. [Footnote 130] "... Later texts add the requirement of believing in a single god (trúa á einn goð...). Njáls saga further elaborated the requirement as faith "in one god, father and son and holy spirit". [[Jochens, Jenny. Late and Peaceful.]] (p. 650).</ref> but leave off all idol- worship, not expose children to perish, and not eat horseflesh. It shall be outlawry if such things are proved openly against any man; but if these things are done by stealth, then it shall be blameless."

	But all this heathendom was all done away with within a few years' space, so that those things were not allowed to be done either by stealth or openly.		But all this heathendom was all done away with within a few years' space, so that those things were not allowed to be done either by stealth or openly.

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Kafli 105

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	Því játuðu allir. Hann kvaðst vilja hafa svardaga af þeim og festu að halda. Þeir játuðu því allir og tók hann af þeim festu.		Því játuðu allir. Hann kvaðst vilja hafa svardaga af þeim og festu að halda. Þeir játuðu því allir og tók hann af þeim festu.

	„Það er upphaf laga vorra,<ref>''' Það er upphaf laga vorra''': "If you want a quick conclusion, it can somewhat unfairly be boiled down to this: things went from bad, but bearable, before Christianity, to worse and barely bearable after. Some people change their style of dying, but most importantly, it becomes harder to maintain the peace. The rules governing violence seem more under stress afterwards. In both post and pre-Christian Njáls saga revenge thrives, but in the earlier period it adhered better to norms of proportionality than after the Conversion." [[Miller, William Ian. Why is Your Axe Bloody?]] (p. 189).</ref>“ sagði hann, „að menn skulu allir vera kristnir hér á landi og trúa á einn guð, föður og son og anda helgan, en láta af allri skurðgoðavillu, bera eigi út börn og eta eigi hrossakjöt. Skal fjörbaugssök á vera ef víst verður en ef leynilega er með farið þá skal vera vítislaust.“		„Það er upphaf laga vorra,<ref>''' Það er upphaf laga vorra''': "If you want a quick conclusion, it can somewhat unfairly be boiled down to this: things went from bad, but bearable, before Christianity, to worse and barely bearable after. Some people change their style of dying, but most importantly, it becomes harder to maintain the peace. The rules governing violence seem more under stress afterwards. In both post and pre-Christian Njáls saga revenge thrives, but in the earlier period it adhered better to norms of proportionality than after the Conversion." [[Miller, William Ian. Why is Your Axe Bloody?]] (p. 189).</ref>“ sagði hann, „að menn skulu allir vera kristnir hér á landi og trúa á einn guð, föður og son og anda helgan,<ref>'''trúa á einn guð, föður og son og anda helgan''': "It is undoubtedly no coincidence that Ari and supposedly Þorgeirr talk only about baptism, the formal requirement of Christianity, without mentioning the accompanying faith in a single god. This would have entailed using the difficult concept goð (God), a neuter word in the pagan context, where it was most often used in the plural, but a masculine term for Christians, of necessity used only in the singular. [Footnote 130] "... Later texts add the requirement of believing in a single god (trúa á einn goð...). Njáls saga further elaborated the requirement as faith "in one god, father and son and holy spirit". [[Jochens, Jenny. Late and Peaceful.]] (s. 650).</ref> en láta af allri skurðgoðavillu, bera eigi út börn og eta eigi hrossakjöt. Skal fjörbaugssök á vera ef víst verður en ef leynilega er með farið þá skal vera vítislaust.“

	En þessi heiðni var afnumin á fárra vetra fresti að eigi skyldi þetta heldur gera á laun heldur en opinberlega. Hann sagði þá um drottinsdagahald og föstudaga, jóladaga og páskadaga og allra hinna stærstu hátíða.		En þessi heiðni var afnumin á fárra vetra fresti að eigi skyldi þetta heldur gera á laun heldur en opinberlega. Hann sagði þá um drottinsdagahald og föstudaga, jóladaga og páskadaga og allra hinna stærstu hátíða.
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	Þóttust heiðnir menn mjög sviknir vera en þá var þá í lög leidd trúan og allir menn gervir kristnir hér á landi.		Þóttust heiðnir menn mjög sviknir vera en þá var þá í lög leidd trúan og allir menn gervir kristnir hér á landi.

	Fara menn við það heim af þingi.		Fara menn við það heim af þingi.


	==Tilvísanir==		==Tilvísanir==

Andri at 13:47, 1 June 2016

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	He said he wished to take an oath of them, and pledges that they would hold to them, and they all said "yea" to that, and so he took pledges from them.		He said he wished to take an oath of them, and pledges that they would hold to them, and they all said "yea" to that, and so he took pledges from them.

	"This is the beginning of our laws,"<ref>''' "This is the beginning of our laws,"''': "If you want a quick conclusion, it can somewhat unfairly be boiled down to this: things went from bad, but bearable, before Christianity, to worse and barely bearable after. Some people change their style of dying, but most importantly, it becomes harder to maintain the peace. The rules governing violence seem more under stress afterwards. In both post and pre-Christian Njáls saga revenge thrives, but in the earlier period it adhered better to norms of proportionality than after the Conversion." [[Miller, William Ian. Why is Your Axe Bloody?]] (p. 189).</ref> he said, "that all men shall be Christian here in the land, and believe in one God, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, but leave off all idol- worship, not expose children to perish, and not eat horseflesh. It shall be outlawry if such things are proved openly against any man; but if these things are done by stealth, then it shall be blameless."		"This is the beginning of our laws,"<ref>'''This is the beginning of our laws,''': "If you want a quick conclusion, it can somewhat unfairly be boiled down to this: things went from bad, but bearable, before Christianity, to worse and barely bearable after. Some people change their style of dying, but most importantly, it becomes harder to maintain the peace. The rules governing violence seem more under stress afterwards. In both post and pre-Christian Njáls saga revenge thrives, but in the earlier period it adhered better to norms of proportionality than after the Conversion." [[Miller, William Ian. Why is Your Axe Bloody?]] (p. 189).</ref> he said, "that all men shall be Christian here in the land, and believe in one God, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, but leave off all idol- worship, not expose children to perish, and not eat horseflesh. It shall be outlawry if such things are proved openly against any man; but if these things are done by stealth, then it shall be blameless."

	But all this heathendom was all done away with within a few years' space, so that those things were not allowed to be done either by stealth or openly.		But all this heathendom was all done away with within a few years' space, so that those things were not allowed to be done either by stealth or openly.

Andri at 13:46, 1 June 2016

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	He said he wished to take an oath of them, and pledges that they would hold to them, and they all said "yea" to that, and so he took pledges from them.		He said he wished to take an oath of them, and pledges that they would hold to them, and they all said "yea" to that, and so he took pledges from them.

	"This is the beginning of our laws," he said, "that all men shall be Christian here in the land, and believe in one God, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, but leave off all idol- worship, not expose children to perish, and not eat horseflesh. It shall be outlawry if such things are proved openly against any man; but if these things are done by stealth, then it shall be blameless."		"This is the beginning of our laws,"<ref>''' "This is the beginning of our laws,"''': "If you want a quick conclusion, it can somewhat unfairly be boiled down to this: things went from bad, but bearable, before Christianity, to worse and barely bearable after. Some people change their style of dying, but most importantly, it becomes harder to maintain the peace. The rules governing violence seem more under stress afterwards. In both post and pre-Christian Njáls saga revenge thrives, but in the earlier period it adhered better to norms of proportionality than after the Conversion." [[Miller, William Ian. Why is Your Axe Bloody?]] (p. 189).</ref> he said, "that all men shall be Christian here in the land, and believe in one God, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, but leave off all idol- worship, not expose children to perish, and not eat horseflesh. It shall be outlawry if such things are proved openly against any man; but if these things are done by stealth, then it shall be blameless."

	But all this heathendom was all done away with within a few years' space, so that those things were not allowed to be done either by stealth or openly.		But all this heathendom was all done away with within a few years' space, so that those things were not allowed to be done either by stealth or openly.
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	Því játuðu allir. Hann kvaðst vilja hafa svardaga af þeim og festu að halda. Þeir játuðu því allir og tók hann af þeim festu.		Því játuðu allir. Hann kvaðst vilja hafa svardaga af þeim og festu að halda. Þeir játuðu því allir og tók hann af þeim festu.

	„Það er upphaf laga vorra,“ sagði hann, „að menn skulu allir vera kristnir hér á landi og trúa á einn guð, föður og son og anda helgan, en láta af allri skurðgoðavillu, bera eigi út börn og eta eigi hrossakjöt. Skal fjörbaugssök á vera ef víst verður en ef leynilega er með farið þá skal vera vítislaust.“		„Það er upphaf laga vorra,<ref>''' Það er upphaf laga vorra''': "If you want a quick conclusion, it can somewhat unfairly be boiled down to this: things went from bad, but bearable, before Christianity, to worse and barely bearable after. Some people change their style of dying, but most importantly, it becomes harder to maintain the peace. The rules governing violence seem more under stress afterwards. In both post and pre-Christian Njáls saga revenge thrives, but in the earlier period it adhered better to norms of proportionality than after the Conversion." [[Miller, William Ian. Why is Your Axe Bloody?]] (p. 189).</ref>“ sagði hann, „að menn skulu allir vera kristnir hér á landi og trúa á einn guð, föður og son og anda helgan, en láta af allri skurðgoðavillu, bera eigi út börn og eta eigi hrossakjöt. Skal fjörbaugssök á vera ef víst verður en ef leynilega er með farið þá skal vera vítislaust.“

	En þessi heiðni var afnumin á fárra vetra fresti að eigi skyldi þetta heldur gera á laun heldur en opinberlega. Hann sagði þá um drottinsdagahald og föstudaga, jóladaga og páskadaga og allra hinna stærstu hátíða.		En þessi heiðni var afnumin á fárra vetra fresti að eigi skyldi þetta heldur gera á laun heldur en opinberlega. Hann sagði þá um drottinsdagahald og föstudaga, jóladaga og páskadaga og allra hinna stærstu hátíða.

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+There was a man named Thorgeir who dwelt at Lightwater; he was the son of Tjorfi, the son of Thorkel the Long, the son of Kettle Longneck. His mother's name was Thoruna, and she was the daughter of Thorstein, the son of Sigmund, the son of Bard of the Nip. Gudrida was the name of his wife; she was a daughter of Thorkel the Black of Hleidrargarth. His brother was Worm Wallet- back, the father of Hlenni the Old of Saurby (1).
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Olga at 08:15, 25 June 2014

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	~~Þetta sama sumar varð Hjalti Skeggjason sekur á þingi um goðgá~~.		Þorgeir hét maður er bjó að Ljósavatni. Hann var Tjörvason Þorkelssonar langs. Móðir hans hét Þórunn og var Þorsteinsdóttir, Sigmundarsonar, Gnúpa-Bárðarsonar. Guðríður hét kona hans. Hún var dóttir Þorkels hins svarta úr Hleiðrargarði. Hans bróðir var Ormur töskubak, faðir Hlenna hins gamla úr Saurbæ. Þeir Ketill og Þorkell voru synir Þóris snepils, Ketilssonar brimils, Örnólfssonar, Björnólfssonar, Grímssonar loðinkinna, Ketilssonar hængs, Hallbjarnarsonar hálftrölls úr Hrafnistu.

	~~Þangbrandur sagði Ólafi konungi frá meingerðum manna við sig, sagði þá vera svo fjölkunnga að jörðin spryngi í sundur undir hesti hans~~ og ~~tæki hestinn. Þá varð Ólafur konungur svo reiður að hann lét taka alla íslenska menn~~ og ~~setja~~ í ~~myrkvastofu og ætlaði þá til dráps~~.		Kristnir menn tjölduðu búðir sínar og voru þeir Gissur og Hjalti í Mosfellingabúð.

	Þá gengu ~~þeir Gissur hvíti að~~ og ~~Hjalti~~ og ~~buðu að leggja sig í veð fyrir þessa~~ menn og ~~fara út til Íslands~~ og ~~boða trú~~. ~~Konungur tók þessu vel~~ og ~~þágu þeir þá alla undan~~.		Um daginn eftir gengu hvorirtveggju til Lögbergs og nefndu hvorir votta, kristnir menn og heiðnir menn, og sögðust hvorir úr lögum annarra og varð þá svo mikið óhljóð að Lögbergi að engi nam mál annars. Síðan gengu menn í braut og þótti öllum horfa til hinna mestu vafninga.

	~~Þá bjuggu þeir Gissur og Hjalti skip sitt~~ til ~~Íslands og urðu snemmbúnir. Þeir tóku land á Eyrum er tíu vikur voru~~ af ~~sumri~~. ~~Þeir fengu sér þegar hesta en fengu menn til~~ að ~~ryðja skip. Ríða þeir þá þrír tigir manna~~ til ~~þings og gerðu þá orð kristnum mönnum~~ að ~~við búnir skyldu vera~~. ~~Hjalti~~ var ~~eftir að Reyðarmúla því að~~ hann ~~hafði spurt~~ að hann ~~var sekur orðinn um goðgá~~. En þá er ~~þeir komu til Vellandkötlu ofan frá Gjábakka~~ þá ~~kom Hjalti eftir þeim~~ og kvaðst ~~ekki~~ vilja ~~sýna það heiðnum mönnum~~ að hann ~~hræddist þá~~. ~~Riðu þá margir~~ kristnir ~~menn í móti þeim~~ og ~~riðu þeir~~ með ~~fylktu liði~~ á ~~þing~~. ~~Heiðnir menn höfðu~~ og ~~fylkt fyrir~~ og var þá ~~svo nær að allur þingheimur mundi berjast en þó varð~~ það ~~eigi~~.		Kristnir menn tóku sér til lögsögumanns Hall af Síðu. En Hallur fór að finna Þorgeir goða frá Ljósavatni og gaf honum til þrjár merkur silfurs að hann segði upp lögin. En það var þó ábyrgðarráð er hann var heiðinn.

			Þorgeir lá dag allan og breiddi feld á höfuð sér svo að engi maður mælti við hann.

			En annan dag gengu menn til Lögbergs.

			Þá beiddi Þorgeir sér hljóðs og mælti: „Svo líst mér sem málum vorum sé komið í ónýt efni ef eigi hafa ein lög allir. En ef sundur skipt er lögunum þá mun sundur skipt friðinum og mun eigi við það mega búa. Nú vil eg þess spyrja kristna menn og heiðna hvort þeir vilja hafa lög þau er eg segi upp.“

			Því játuðu allir. Hann kvaðst vilja hafa svardaga af þeim og festu að halda. Þeir játuðu því allir og tók hann af þeim festu.

			„Það er upphaf laga vorra,“ sagði hann, „að menn skulu allir vera kristnir hér á landi og trúa á einn guð, föður og son og anda helgan, en láta af allri skurðgoðavillu, bera eigi út börn og eta eigi hrossakjöt. Skal fjörbaugssök á vera ef víst verður en ef leynilega er með farið þá skal vera vítislaust.“

			En þessi heiðni var afnumin á fárra vetra fresti að eigi skyldi þetta heldur gera á laun heldur en opinberlega. Hann sagði þá um drottinsdagahald og föstudaga, jóladaga og páskadaga og allra hinna stærstu hátíða.

			Þóttust heiðnir menn mjög sviknir vera en þá var þá í lög leidd trúan og allir menn gervir kristnir hér á landi.

			Fara menn við það heim af þingi.

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	~~'''TITILL'''~~		Þetta sama sumar varð Hjalti Skeggjason sekur á þingi um goðgá.

	~~ÍSLENSKA~~		Þangbrandur sagði Ólafi konungi frá meingerðum manna við sig, sagði þá vera svo fjölkunnga að jörðin spryngi í sundur undir hesti hans og tæki hestinn. Þá varð Ólafur konungur svo reiður að hann lét taka alla íslenska menn og setja í myrkvastofu og ætlaði þá til dráps.

			Þá gengu þeir Gissur hvíti að og Hjalti og buðu að leggja sig í veð fyrir þessa menn og fara út til Íslands og boða trú. Konungur tók þessu vel og þágu þeir þá alla undan.

			Þá bjuggu þeir Gissur og Hjalti skip sitt til Íslands og urðu snemmbúnir. Þeir tóku land á Eyrum er tíu vikur voru af sumri. Þeir fengu sér þegar hesta en fengu menn til að ryðja skip. Ríða þeir þá þrír tigir manna til þings og gerðu þá orð kristnum mönnum að við búnir skyldu vera. Hjalti var eftir að Reyðarmúla því að hann hafði spurt að hann var sekur orðinn um goðgá. En þá er þeir komu til Vellandkötlu ofan frá Gjábakka þá kom Hjalti eftir þeim og kvaðst ekki vilja sýna það heiðnum mönnum að hann hræddist þá. Riðu þá margir kristnir menn í móti þeim og riðu þeir með fylktu liði á þing. Heiðnir menn höfðu og fylkt fyrir og var þá svo nær að allur þingheimur mundi berjast en þó varð það eigi.

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